Comments on: Prevent the High School Experience in Church http://www.volunteercentered.com/2007/08/19/prevent-the-high-school-experience-in-church/ Volunteer leadership, management, and recruiting for church ministries and non-profits Thu, 24 Mar 2011 20:46:07 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Champ http://www.volunteercentered.com/2007/08/19/prevent-the-high-school-experience-in-church/comment-page-1/#comment-3548 Champ Sun, 11 Nov 2007 03:43:22 +0000 http://www.volunteercentered.com/2007/08/19/prevent-the-high-school-experience-in-church/#comment-3548 Stop seeing yourself as Jesus and your group as the disciples. That's how wrong thinking and acting starts in the first place. If brown nosing is ever seen to work in an organization, that is the end. All you will have left are the brown nosers that compete with each other and those who refuse to do it because they know it is not right, but they will be paralyzed. Any leader worth a flip would never put up with it. Stop seeing yourself as Jesus and your group as the disciples. That’s how wrong thinking and acting starts in the first place.

If brown nosing is ever seen to work in an organization, that is the end. All you will have left are the brown nosers that compete with each other and those who refuse to do it because they know it is not right, but they will be paralyzed.
Any leader worth a flip would never put up with it.

]]> By: amos http://www.volunteercentered.com/2007/08/19/prevent-the-high-school-experience-in-church/comment-page-1/#comment-3509 amos Fri, 31 Aug 2007 01:33:02 +0000 http://www.volunteercentered.com/2007/08/19/prevent-the-high-school-experience-in-church/#comment-3509 good observations. i do think there is a natural thing that happens any time a group of people form a "team" or a "group" - and that this "insider - outsider" dynamic is something natural. i say it like this, "any time a group of people join hands they form a circle - a circle of which some are a part and some are not." i am not even sure that removing the labels "core" or "first" will truly work to change this phenomenon - except that the leadership might need to always keep advice like yours in their minds - and be constant in sowing a mentality of a welcoming circle. truth is ... a leader can only invest in so many people - and while this need not be "preferential treatment" in the bad sense of the phrase ... it will be seen that way and in many respects work out that way. Jesus was loving to all - but he invested himself in the 12. i suggest that, in many ways, it was the nature of that investment which made all the difference as to how the group progressed beyond a closed circle. peac4d. amos good observations. i do think there is a natural thing that happens any time a group of people form a “team” or a “group” – and that this “insider – outsider” dynamic is something natural.

i say it like this, “any time a group of people join hands they form a circle – a circle of which some are a part and some are not.”

i am not even sure that removing the labels “core” or “first” will truly work to change this phenomenon – except that the leadership might need to always keep advice like yours in their minds – and be constant in sowing a mentality of a welcoming circle.

truth is … a leader can only invest in so many people – and while this need not be “preferential treatment” in the bad sense of the phrase … it will be seen that way and in many respects work out that way.

Jesus was loving to all – but he invested himself in the 12. i suggest that, in many ways, it was the nature of that investment which made all the difference as to how the group progressed beyond a closed circle.

peac4d.
amos

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]]> By: James Dalman http://www.volunteercentered.com/2007/08/19/prevent-the-high-school-experience-in-church/comment-page-1/#comment-3506 James Dalman Wed, 22 Aug 2007 17:43:20 +0000 http://www.volunteercentered.com/2007/08/19/prevent-the-high-school-experience-in-church/#comment-3506 One for all and all for One! One for all and all for One!

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